Israel-Syria-IRAQ-ISIS-Iran (Islamic Terrorism)

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Postby Cate McCalley » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:58 pm

Political Plague wrote:Protestors in Iran. Not a peep from the left.


The extreme left has taken a position I don’t agree with. In that it has voiced opposition on Trump’s public celebration of it. Believing it gives the Iranian regime to crack down on protesters, pointing to the U.S instigation and meddling in their sovereign country’s internal affairs.

My position is the regime will make that claim, with or without Trump applauding the protest. IMO, it’s better the protesters hear support from the world’s largest megaphone than not to hear that support.

Unfortunately the only difference in the protest of 2009, is the middle class took to the streets to oppose civil rights violations, while today’s protestors are working class dissenting over Iran’s unequal economy.

Anti-government leaders of this protest are still unable to unite into an organized cohesive front to keep public pressure for protest, even with the current mass discontent.

Iran’s elite are still united and ready for any excuse for a severe crackdown on dissenters, (i.e, foreign meddling in politics). The elites lopsided ability and capacity to institute a severe crackdown, is formidable in the face of any protest movement is not united with common leaders. Notable leaders with a following to advance a more democratic ideology.

Iran’s Government is maintaining legitimacy and enough efficiency to stifle the kind of dissent necessary to foment a real revolution.

Unless the corruption and mis-management of government reaches the level that fractures the solidarity of the elites...i.e., one faction becoming excessively greedy, or disloyal, there’s little hope dissenting leaders to unite for a common cause.

Iranians don’t have guns. They can’t storm the well entrenched Revolutionary Guard and take theirs. They are without means to foment a real revolution. At this juncture it must come from a fractured elite. Not likely to happen considering greed and privilege has solidly united the religious & government elites.


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Re: Israel-Syria-IRAQ-ISIS-Iran (Islamic Terrorism)

Postby Demon Hunter » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:55 am

Iranians don’t have guns.

That alone tells us why our forefathers wrote the Second Amendment.
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Re: Israel-Syria-IRAQ-ISIS-Iran (Islamic Terrorism)

Postby Cate McCalley » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:44 pm

Demon Hunter wrote:Iranians don’t have guns.

That alone tells us why our forefathers wrote the Second Amendment.


A citizens right to keep and bear arms to protect freedom, is only a Right. It does not ensure freedom.

Even if Iranians did have guns, their government is Theocratic ruled. They don’t have protective free speech, or protections against government seizure. Dissenters speaking out about civil/human rights violations or economic inequality are imprisoned with no legal recourse.

‘A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’

The 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to firearms to protect freedom. It was written at a time when firearms were exceedingly primitive compared today weapons. The sub machine guns, machine guns, assault weapons, etc. were created and introduced more than 100 years after our Constitution was written.

None of these high powered weapons (capable of firing 45 rounds per minute & many, many more when modified) compare to the sophisticated weapons of warfare belonging to our military. Weapons that include sonic and ultra sonic devices that cause such intense headache and inner ear pain, they can disarm more than a crowd of 1,000 armed people in less than 3 minutes. Any attempt to overthrow our government using high powered automatic weapons would be a colossal failure & a complete waste of human life.

So...irrespective of the ‘freedom’ arguments gun enthusiast use to support production and sales for gun manufacturers, what assault weapons really do, is kill hundreds of Americans every year.
No deer hunter needs an AK-15 to hunt and kill deer.

Gangs and criminals need AK-15’s to fight their turf wars, protect their drug trade & kill unsuspecting masses of innocent people.

Opposing common sense gun legislation that works to keep weapons specifically designed to kill large numbers in less than a minute, assures these weapons will find their way into the hands of mass murderers, and criminal gangs.

The 2nd Amendment only endows our people with the RIGHT to protect our freedom. It does not protect our freedom. That protection is found in our Constitution’s 1st & 4th Amendments.

It is the fourth Amendment that prevents local law enforcement from illegally seizing citizens firearms that protect themselves from criminal abuse.

It is the 1st Amendment that protects the free speech of people and America’s journalist to speak truth to power.


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Re: Israel-Syria-IRAQ-ISIS-Iran (Islamic Terrorism)

Postby ScArEcRoW » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:39 am

The Ten Commandments were written before our Constitution. Should we disregard it because of time?
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Re: Israel-Syria-IRAQ-ISIS-Iran (Islamic Terrorism)

Postby Cate McCalley » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:20 pm

ScArEcRoW wrote:The Ten Commandments were written before our Constitution. Should we disregard it because of time?


I find it somewhat baffling that you equate man’s laws that are ever changing since mankind made the first law, with God’s Laws that we are taught never changing.


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Re: Israel-Syria-IRAQ-ISIS-Iran (Islamic Terrorism)

Postby Political Plague » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:21 pm

So let's go through the elements. Did Obama owe an allegiance to the United States? Yes. Are Hezbollah and Iran enemies of the USA? Yes. Did Obama adhere to them? Yes. Did Obama give them aid and comfort? Yes.

Worse - Obama deliberately made Iran and Hezbollah stronger.
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