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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby VoteMout » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:21 am

when pedophiles hanging out in public restrooms to prey vulnerable adolescents and teens is never mentioned?


They have been mentioned plenty. Thats the entire reason for the public outcry. Pedophiles and vourers will take advantage of the rule in stores such as Target.
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:50 am

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when pedophiles hanging out in public restrooms to prey vulnerable adolescents and teens is never mentioned?


They have been mentioned plenty. Thats the entire reason for the public outcry. Pedophiles and vourers will take advantage of the rule in stores such as Target.


I don't buy it.

Transgenders are people that identify with the sex opposite of their birth. Women that dress and behave like the men they most identify with, and men that dress and behave like thecwomen they most identify with.

There are no urinals in womens public rest rooms, only private stalls. There are both urinals and private stalls in mens public restrooms.

A transgender using the mens room can't whip it out and piss in a urinal, to impress anyone. The plumbing to accomplish that feat doesn't exist. A transgender using the women's restroom are confined to use the private stall and can't whip in out to piss in a public urinal, because the urinal doesn't exist.

The real danger is in straight pedophiles (the vast majority men) p, not transgenders, opportunity to molest unaccompanied children, adolescents and teens in public restrooms.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby VoteMout » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:20 pm

Trans people have been using the restroom of their choice for years. Why make a rule that says you can use any restroom you identify with regardless of your appearance.
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:52 pm

VoteMout wrote:Trans people have been using the restroom of their choice for years. Why make a rule that says you can use any restroom you identify with regardless of your appearance.


I don't know the exact wording of the EO. My understanding is that it doesn't address 'appearance' as such, but speaks to gender identification, which naturally would be determined by mannerisms, behavior and appearance.

It's my understanding the EO was intended to address bullying of transgenders and transexuals treated as 'freaks' within both public and private institutions.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby VoteMout » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:44 am

Outing yourself by going into a opposite sex bathroom would only add to the bullying. Logic Cate. Use Logic!
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:31 am

VoteMout wrote:Outing yourself by going into a opposite sex bathroom would only add to the bullying. Logic Cate. Use Logic!


I don't kniw much about the intimidation and bullying of gays, or 'transgenders' Only that it is wrong to bully or intimidate anyone because they are different.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:34 am

Cate McCalley wrote:
VoteMout wrote:Outing yourself by going into a opposite sex bathroom would only add to the bullying. Logic Cate. Use Logic!


I don't kniw much about the intimidation and bullying of gays, or 'transgenders' Only that it is wrong to bully or intimidate anyone because they are different.


One of the best scenes in Forest Gump was his mother telling Forest if God wanted everybody to look the same, everybody would have braces for their legs like he did.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby CrissyAlwaysSunny » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:46 am

Cate McCalley wrote:
VoteMout wrote:Outing yourself by going into a opposite sex bathroom would only add to the bullying. Logic Cate. Use Logic!


I don't kniw much about the intimidation and bullying of gays, or 'transgenders' Only that it is wrong to bully or intimidate anyone because they are different.


We all know it's wrong but it happens, and coming out of any closet while being in school is going to cause it to be worse.
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:41 am

CrissyAlwaysSunny wrote:
Cate McCalley wrote:
VoteMout wrote:Outing yourself by going into a opposite sex bathroom would only add to the bullying. Logic Cate. Use Logic!


I don't know much about the intimidation and bullying of gays, or 'transgenders' Only that it is wrong to bully or intimidate anyone because they are different.


We all know it's wrong but it happens, and coming out of any closet while being in school is going to cause it to be worse.


The only way I know to stop bullying is to stand up against it. Running only encourages a bully.
Parents have to know their children are safe at school. School Administrators and teachers have a responsiblity to stop bullying, Period.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Gopher » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:06 pm

A parent needs to know that their child can use the restroom with someone of the opposite sex being in there.
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:52 pm

Gopher wrote:A parent needs to know that their child can use the restroom with someone of the opposite sex being in there.


What do you think transgender kids have been doing Gopher? If they're enrolled in school identifying their sex opposite of their birth gender, they've been using bathrooms that identify with that gender.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby upallnight » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:37 am

Cate McCalley wrote:
Gopher wrote:A parent needs to know that their child can use the restroom with someone of the opposite sex being in there.


What do you think transgender kids have been doing Gopher? If they're enrolled in school identifying their sex opposite of their birth gender, they've been using bathrooms that identify with that gender.


You just don't get it cate or your mind is so tuned into the liberal agenda you can't help yourself.
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cate McCalley » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:11 am

upallnight wrote:
Cate McCalley wrote:
Gopher wrote:A parent needs to know that their child can use the restroom with someone of the opposite sex being in there.


What do you think transgender kids have been doing Gopher? If they're enrolled in school identifying their sex opposite of their birth gender, they've been using bathrooms that identify with that gender.


You just don't get it cate or your mind is so tuned into the liberal agenda you can't help yourself.


Call it a liberal agenda or whatever label that conveniently allows you to dismiss how I, and a great many others, see the exaggerated dangers of transgenders being allowed to use the bathroom of their sexual identity.

Children all develop in much the same way, physically, emotionally and psychologically and spiritually and largely dependent on their caretakers. Caretakers include every person that has authority to set the rules and guidelines for children.

Adolescents (all of them) must deal with establishing their own identity. Most do this during adolescence, some delay it into their late teens and early adulthood. Establishing one's identity is expressed in various ways, including sexual. We see this in dress codes, piercings, tatoo's, designer clothing, sports affiliations, academic pursuits all influened by pressure to conform or reject conformity.

Much like how the tatooed non conformist establish their identities using body art,, Transgenders express their non conformist identities with adopting an opposite sexual identity. This does not necessary mean the non conformist rejects conformity of all social norms. Nor should society exclude from society them because they are different than the majority.

The fact is every person is different, whether or not the conform with society's norms or not. People express their differences through organized and unorganized religion, pyschological and emotional pursuits and physical appearance.

I believe honesty does more to develop good character in human beings than any other single thing. This begins with accepting everyone, including oneself, is entitled to be who they are. We have laws that are designed to protect us from the abuse of others, voyeurs as well as bullys. Society must on the whole, encourage and support these laws.


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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Demon Hunter » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:25 am

Our great education system doesn't teach History anymore. Transgender bathrooms are more important.
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Re: Obama demands transgender students bathroom choice

Postby Cornbread » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:58 pm

Demon Hunter wrote:Our great education system doesn't teach History anymore. Transgender bathrooms are more important.


My advice is look through your childs history book and see what's being left out.
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