Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

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Postby Cate McCalley » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:34 pm

ScArEcRoW wrote:Not the work you are thinking of Cate. Volunteer work!


Wow! Now I’m really confused. Are you saying the able bodied people addicted to opioids and no longer eligible for rehabilitation work are now expected to volunteer to continue their medicaid coverage?

Or are you saying treatment centers that will no longer receive medicaid payments, are expected to volunteer their treatment services for those no longer covered by Medicaid?

If you mean these folks must volunteer their services somewhere, has a network of public and private businesses and organization established to provide volunteer work for those that need it to comply with the new requirement?


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Re: Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

Postby Pappy » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:56 pm

Cate McCalley wrote:
ScArEcRoW wrote:Not the work you are thinking of Cate. Volunteer work!


Wow! Now I’m really confused. Are you saying the able bodied people addicted to opioids and no longer eligible for rehabilitation work are now expected to volunteer to continue their medicaid coverage?

Or are you saying treatment centers that will no longer receive medicaid payments, are expected to volunteer their treatment services for those no longer covered by Medicaid?

If you mean these folks must volunteer their services somewhere, has a network of public and private businesses and organization established to provide volunteer work for those that need it to comply with the new requirement?

They can volunteer @ CVS with PharmGirl oxy an hour. :lol:
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Re: Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

Postby Legion » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:42 pm

They have to work a minumum of 20 hours at a non profit business, or government office.
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Re: Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

Postby Cate McCalley » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:53 am

Legion wrote:They have to work a minumum of 20 hours at a non profit business, or government office.


OK. Obviously there must be a mechanism to determine which of those receiving Medicaid are able bodied. Then there must be some mechanism set up for the State to register and verify those determined to be able bodied to work or volunteer for these non profit business and government jobs. Of course there has to be a cooperative network of non profit businesses and government agencies established to absorbed the volunteer help they’re about to receive. Followed by State government oversight for compliance.

How much will Kentucky taxpayers lose Medicaid’s matching federal funding, to control this mandate? What will Kentucky’s taxpayers gain? If there is any gain (which I seriously doubt) will any of it be used to create permanent employment for the able bodied, that would then have access to private industries medical care coverage?


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Re: Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

Postby Cate McCalley » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:55 pm

Some significant news the media isn’t reporting. About solving the high cost of medical care, that partisan politics has not only created, but works to sustain.

Three of our nation’s most successful leaders of capitalism JPMorgan, Amazon, and Berkshire Hathaway are teaming up to reduce medical care costs for their employees.

They are not seeking to solve the spiraling cost of good medical care by answering the question, the way the Trump Administration and Congress has answered it. By pitching the problem of spiraling medical care cost to individual States unequipped to solve it. States limited to deciding which of us merit affordable medical care and which of us don’t.

These three business giants will use their muscle to beat the problem of unaffordable medical care in it’s totality. And they are using the premise that unlike their commodity driven business models, that must produce a profit to be sustainable, medical care is a commodity that does not have to produce profit to be sustainable.

Considering these three institutions have signed onto the concept that our nation’s present medical care system, (that will account for approximately 20% of our nation’s GDP by 2025) does not need to be profitable to be successful, this is a huge step in the right direction. An unexpected intervention by three of our nation’s most successful wealth builders, to sustain our nation’s wealth by improving the condition of their most valuable asset, human capital.

It’s one thing to hand out a one time bonus, or a modest pay increase that goes away with the inflated cost of goods and services. Another to eliminate those inflated cost.


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Re: Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

Postby Cate McCalley » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:10 pm

Three big losers in this past Friday & yesterday U.S. stock market drop; Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet), FaceBook (Mark Zuckerman) & Amazon (Jeff Bezo). Facebook & Amazon stocks seeing the biggest stock drop value. Congressional pressure on FaceBook and Twitter to identify and control internal security to control foreign government interference in U.S. elections, means expensive and unexpected security investments.

Amazon & Berkshire Hathaway’s stock sell off could be related the Buffet/Bezo commitment to eliminate the profit of medical care cost for their employees. That’s the kind of preemptive strike the monopolized and profit driven health care industry could use to offset the plan....sell off the stock in their pension investment portfolio’s. Just a thought.

Looking at the big picture, the combined loss of actual U.S. $ in the two day sell off is so far is around $180 billion. If Bernie Sanders idea to charge a penny of every dollar for every stock transaction (both buy & sell) to fund ‘Medicare for all’, so far the two day high volume sell off would have grossed $1.8 billion for his ‘Medicare for all’ package. As Trump bragged about the U.S. Stock market adding more than a trillion in investments, had Sanders idea been implemented Trump could have boasted about the $100 Billion plus the $1.8 billion so far in the sell off, sitting in the federal treasury that would pay for medical care for everyone that needs it. Investors wouldn’t have even noticed the penny contribution that made ‘Medicare for all’ possible.

Moreover State Governors wouldn’t be struggling with rising Medicaid cost and having to decide which of their citizens deserve medical care and which ones don’t.

After more than 3 decades of watching and waiting for Congress and five Administrations try to control our medical delivery systemscspiraling medical care cost, private industry is coming to understand our politically divided government can’t control it.


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Re: Obamacare killing jobs: Update 12/10/13: Kentucky's Mess

Postby Cate McCalley » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:10 pm

Correction; Trump bragged the stock market value had increased by $8 Trillion, not $1 Trillion, hypothetically giving Sanders proposed plan to charge Wall Street a penny per dollar buy or sell transaction to fund ‘Medicare for all’ approximately $817 Billion this year, not $101.68 Billion.

I highly doubt any Congress would ever consider approving such a sane proposal. If they ever did, I’m 100% certain they would also include a sweetener for Wall Street in the deal. Some loophole that would include a cap that automatically triggered some sort of investor rebate anticipating market slides.


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