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The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:14 pm

107 news sources around the world have gotten their hands on over 11.5 million documents, leaked from a Panamanian financial law firm Mossack Fonseca. The documents exposes shell corporations holding set up to transfer $Billions for for the political rich and famous. Two of Putin's close 'friends' top the list.


http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/ap ... n-offshore

http://www.theguardian.com/news/comment ... ama-papers


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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby goat47 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:28 pm

Heads of state, politicians and celebrities are among those named in leaked files exposing ownership of offshore accounts.
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Postby GFunkMoneyDog » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:52 pm

It basically shows how the rich and powerful are hiding their wealth. Over 140 politicians and public officials, past and present, are involved in this shady, secret web. Damn I wish I was listed in the Panama Papers.
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Postby CrissyAlwaysSunny » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:44 pm

I will have to read about it.
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Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:03 pm

Lot's of present and past world leaders using offshore accounts set up directly or by their 'friends & relatives' to evade taxes and launder money to build their network of political power. Using stolen wealth to secure their seats of power. David Cameron's father being one of them.

Great Britian could dismantle this network of offshore banking accounts that would stymie global political system's network of dark money.

In what appears to be damage control, PM David Cameron is a few steps ahead, holding a 'financial banking' summit in London next month. One that will propose a central register that identifies the beneficial or “significant” owners of UK companies (the real owners of such holdings). Supposedly this would include overseas territories British Virgin Islands and other tax havens.

Problem is in March, a government consultation document shows the central register would keep the 'central registry' database exclusive to the country in which a firm is incorporated. This allow offshore banking secrecy to conduct business as usual, as they would control the 'central registry' of their individual territories.

Campaigners opposing offshore tax havens want them closed. Well.......doesn't look like the fox is going to agree to leaving the chicken coop anytime soon.


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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby VoteMout » Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:25 pm

Who remembers when Obama and Clinton pushed for a Panama trade deal amid warnings it would make money laundering and tax evasion worse????
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Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:42 pm

VoteMout wrote:Who remembers when Obama and Clinton pushed for a Panama trade deal amid warnings it would make money laundering and tax evasion worse????



Now you know what Bernie Sanders means when he campaigns to close the tax loopholes of the billionaire elites, safe harboring their profits in offshore accounts to avoid domestic taxation.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/4/11360404/pa ... ie-sanders


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Postby Legion » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:19 am

VoteMout wrote:Who remembers when Obama and Clinton pushed for a Panama trade deal amid warnings it would make money laundering and tax evasion worse????


Is their a list?
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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby PharmGirl » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:39 am

Just listened to President Obama on this subject. He says it's up to congress to fix this and that it's not illegal.
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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby goat47 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:27 pm

If Putin can prove that Soros leaked these documents, Soros better get a food taster.
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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby Political Plague » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:04 pm

Soros and Company are trying every way possible to take down Mr. Putin: first- Putin was supposed to have ordered the killing of a journalist, etc.; then Putin was responsible for the downing of a civilian plane in Ukraine; then Putin was corrupt; then Putin was killing moderate Jihaist instead of Isis jihaist; now Putin has Billions of money in Panama, etc. The Panama Papers are like a Pandora's box that will force those well entrenched in the shadow world and out of harms way, at the moment, to be named as these entities are audited. Wait till the list of American's are released.
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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby Cate McCalley » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:30 pm

Political Plague wrote:Soros and Company are trying every way possible to take down Mr. Putin: first- Putin was supposed to have ordered the killing of a journalist, etc.; then Putin was responsible for the downing of a civilian plane in Ukraine; then Putin was corrupt; then Putin was killing moderate Jihaist instead of Isis jihaist; now Putin has Billions of money in Panama, etc. The Panama Papers are like a Pandora's box that will force those well entrenched in the shadow world and out of harms way, at the moment, to be named as these entities are audited. Wait till the list of American's are released.


I see you have a bit of a man crush on Vladamir, PP. Why else would you believe Putin is being misaligned?

In Russia, political power is much more valuable than money. In Russia one obtains wealth through the control of state resources and monopolizing private ones. That's how itvwas under Stalin, and thats how it is now with Putin. In Russia money is made to flow to those in power. Power does not necessarily flow to those with money.

I highly recommend you read Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya's 'A Russian Diary'. This highly respected journalist lived her entire life in Russia. 'A Russian Diary' was the last book she wrote. She lived through the Gorbachev, Yeltin's and Putin regimes. Until she was murdered in her doorway, a few months after this last book. Putin is responsible for more the deaths od 13 journalist. Some claim as many as 25 inside Russia. Though the 13 that have been killed or 'missing' all challenged Putin's policies. Especially after Putin did away with governor selections of the states of The Russian Federation, and appointed them himself.

One of the things Putin did with his offshore accounts, was fund an international media source to build his image. Not as the regional power that he is, but of an international power he hopes to become.

As for Putin bombing Assad opposition groups as opposed to ISIS camps, one only has to look at a Syrian map that shows the strongholds of the various factions involved in Syria's civil war in 2015. Nine out of ten bombs Russian planes dropped were on strongholds of opposition groups. Not ISIS held territories. You cannot find one map detailing Syrian airstrikes that does not show this fact. Are all the publishers of those maps lying?

Let's assume they are. Let's assume George Soros and all the rest are son of bitches looking out for themselves, and in the process exposing Putin. If that's the case at least I know I'm an American son of a bitch, not a Russian one.


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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby Demon Hunter » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:22 pm

Putin is going to declassify archival documents with very interesting names, some documents will surprise society. Soros HAS to be in there.
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Postby GFunkMoneyDog » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:48 am

Until she was murdered in her doorway, a few months after this last book. Putin is responsible for more the deaths od 13 journalist. Some claim as many as 25 inside Russia. Though the 13 that have been killed or 'missing' all challenged Putin's policies. Especially after Putin did away with governor selections of the states of The Russian Federation, and appointed them himself.


You acknowledge this, but don't give credence to the Clinton's kill list which is well documented.
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Re: The Panama Papers - 'World's Kleptocrats Exposed'

Postby Cate McCalley » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:08 am

GFunkMoneyDog wrote:
Until she was murdered in her doorway, a few months after this last book. Putin is responsible for more the deaths od 13 journalist. Some claim as many as 25 inside Russia. Though the 13 that have been killed or 'missing' all challenged Putin's policies. Especially after Putin did away with governor selections of the states of The Russian Federation, and appointed them himself.


You acknowledge this, but don't give credence to the Clinton's kill list which is well documented.



I thought I did. Maybe not so clear:

"Let's assume they are. Let's assume George Soros and all the rest are son of bitches looking out for themselves, and in the process exposing Putin. If that's the case at least I know I'm an American son of a bitch, not a Russian one."

W. Bush has an alleged 'kill list' too. Though neither Clinton or Bush are believed to, or alleged to have murdered journalist. No American President has ever usurped the powers of the states in our U.S. Federation to the point of declaring Governor elections non-essential, and appointing the same themselves. There's really no comparison between Putin's Russia and (Fill In The Blank) America.


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